005: Connecting To Influencers With Luis Congdon

00:01 Beau Henderson: Welcome to the richest conversation on the radio. This is the one place that is committed to helping you have the tools and resources, the friends with the expertise to help you live your definition of a rich life. We call it a healthy, wealthy, fulfilled life on purpose. I’m your host, Beau Henderson and today I’m really excited to bring a friend that was introduced to me by a friend, isn’t that funny how it works sometimes here? It’s networking and connecting, but what a powerful story and a perfect example of what we talk about on the The RichLife Show. Luis Congdon, how you doing, Luis? Welcome to The RichLife Show.

00:40 Luis Congdon: I’m doing excellent. I’m excited to be here today, Beau, and excited to be here for you, the listener, to hopefully give you some incredible content that you can take away and immediately take action on.

00:52 BH: Hey, you’re speaking our language. Actionable content, actionable things we can go apply today, because I see a lot of that out there, Luis. Some good information, maybe, might read a book or something, you might learn something that’s great, but it’s kind of gone and you’re off to the next book or next course, unless there are really tangible action steps, so you actually start learning it experientially. So, one of the things we do, I kinda try to flip the script here. A lot of times in an interview, you’ll see somebody try to get the big takeaway on the tail-end. What I wanna do is a RichLife Minute, and right upfront here, gonna put you on the spot a little bit.

01:28 LC: Let’s do it.

01:29 BH: But I’m not worried about you. So we got 60 seconds and I want you to tell our audience what a 60 second version of your mission and what you’re about.

01:43 LC: I love that.

01:44 BH: There you go. Your RichLife minute, when you’re ready.

01:46 LC: Okay. Well, you know, my mission is to help as many people find freedom, whatever that looks like for them. And for me, freedom has three different avenues and I’m really committed to all three: Spirituality, monetary and relationship. And I’ve really devoted my life to finding an expertise in those three areas and I help people in those particular three areas of life. More specifically in the relationship arena, I work with couples, helping them really fine tune their relationship and the love that they have. And in business, I help people create and have a successful online business, primarily through networking, is my gift, so I really help people in that area. And the more people that I can help find freedom in those two areas, I really do believe that they’ll find freedom in the rest of their life.

02:39 BH: Hey, 61 seconds. That’s about as perfect as you can get. And it’s very clear, I appreciate it. So you’ve gotten this mission, and it’s funny, Luis, we have this similar… I mean, that’s a RichLife mission if I’ve ever heard one.

[chuckle]

02:53 BH: Because something people miss a lot of times is the financial, the spiritual, the relationships. It’s not you go work on one, they’re so intertwined, that they’re all just intimately related and we’ve gotta look at it in the context of a whole. So that’s what I love about your approach and why I immediately resonated when our first conversation, is because there’s no… You work on one piece without taking another piece into account, you’re probably just screwing things up a little worse.

03:20 LC: That’s right. The finances… Yesterday, I was talking to somebody and one of the things they said to me is, “Sales is the solution to everything.” And I’m not sure I agree with that 100%, but there’s a saying, “Money can’t buy happiness”. But someone added a nice little thing to that, is “It can’t buy happiness but it’s sure a good down-payment”.

03:42 BH: [chuckle] That’s right. I thought you were gonna go with, “It’s right up there with oxygen” as far as how useful it is. But you’re right, and I run into that a lot in the work I do with money of this thing is, well, combining the spirituality and the money that you can have both. You can be both and you may have a different view, I wanna… I’m curious. A lot of times I find people taking that view of, “Well, money’s bad, money’s not the right thing to focus on.” What I find is, that’s actually resistance and a justification and an excuse not to do what you probably have the gifts to do really well and help a lot of people.

04:19 LC: I definitely agree. And there’s a saying that “Money is the root of all evil”. And that saying is highly misconstrued because there’s some lines that follow that. And it’s “For the love of money”, so it’s this love of money over people or over the kind of quintessential aspects of life that maybe is evil, but money or anything in of itself, as Shakespeare put it really well is, “Nothing is either good or bad except the meaning you give to it”. Because with money, from a poverty standpoint, when I was impoverished, money would have helped a lot. And now that I have money, I’m able to help impoverished people, I’m able to help people that are working really hard and money is just making life a lot better all around. I choose to give money a certain type of power when I spend it and when I use it, so that it’s a conduit for goodness. And that to me is the RichLife mission too, is to use whatever you have at your fingertips to create a rich life for other people, and if you’re doing that, you could take a gun and it can be good thing, you can take a hug and it can be a good thing, you can take some kind of misconstrued evil thought that someone has and turn it into a good thing. We really have that power, right, to take any kind of situation or substance, and have transformation with it.

05:52 BH: No. And I think that’s a key to pull back out. I can’t say it any more eloquent than Shakespeare [chuckle] but that’s one of the things, we give money so much power that it doesn’t really have, and we can really, if we can step back non-emotionally and realized it’s dead presidents on paper, it’s coins, it might be shells in some places, I don’t know, but it’s just a thing and like you brought up with your quote, Luis, the context is given to it by me and you, the humans, whether it’s good or bad.

06:20 LC: That’s right.

06:21 BH: And that’s the key. So again, I think sometimes we use that excuse that money does all these bad things to people or makes you evil, makes you this or that, but that’s just the resistance to not go do what you probably know inside you should be doing anyway, so that discontent, the easy thing to do is just to blame money.

06:39 LC: Right, and I’m thinking of a situation where my dad, he’s about 65, 67 right now. He went to the University of Washington in his 20s. There was a lot of civil rights movement happening around that time and he was in a class, and there was a few people that were black inside the class, and this kind of ritzy white woman said something about how money didn’t really matter and that she didn’t have to be rich it wasn’t that big of a deal, and a young black man in the class got really upset and stood up and said, “It doesn’t matter until you don’t have it, and if you’ve never had it, you have no idea what you’re talking about.” And that’s really it, is money is really, really important for us. It’s super important.

07:35 BH: You’re right and and then you hinted on this, you brought up a little bit about when you were in poverty. So something I find on this show, every time I talk to somebody with a mission and that tends to be the people that listen to this show. They have a business or an idea and a mission that they wanna turn into a business. The same thing for the folks we talk to and you’re no exception. You have a mission and your mission is in service to others like we talked about, but I always find that there’s a story behind it. So let’s just do like the two to three minute version of your story if that’s possible, Luis.

08:08 LC: Definitely. Well, I was born in Medellin, Colombia during the 1980s. That’s the height of the cocaine cartel when Colombia was the number one exporter of cocaine and billions of dollars were being basically sent to Colombia for this commodity that has certain side effects of creating a lot of violence, distrust and chaos in a country, and I was born during that time. My mom was a drug addict. My parents weren’t together. My mom was murdered when I was five due to drug abuse and drug debts, and I was left homeless for several years as a young child from the age of five to eight years old. I was placed in an orphanage, I was adopted into the United States by some really incredible parents. They got divorced several years after I’d been here in the US. I pursued the life of a monk for many years believing that relationships were not a place where health and happiness could be found.

09:08 LC: When I was 18, I went back to Colombia. I reunited with my father and my mom was passed away, and reunited with the rest of my family and as an adult in my 20s, I actually became homeless in my kind of later 20s. So I had a strong mission in a lot of my life due to the experiences of being homeless and growing up impoverished to help homeless people and that was part of the reason why I became a monk and it’s one of the reasons why I spent 10 years in the non-profit. Just in the year 2015, I launched an online business and am now in a place where I actually make more than I did than when I was a senior director of a non-profit managing over 25 staff and three different job sites. Using an online business especially podcasting and Facebook for networking which is something I’m gonna be really excited to talk about during our summit time. But my life has really revolutionized because I’ve become very different in regards to my stance on money and receiving it and then using it for goodness and also making sure I have plenty of it for myself. That is my story in a nutshell, there.

10:20 BH: Well, no. It’s perfect. And this idea of… I mean I don’t know if people caught that. You started this business in 2015, that’s this year.

10:29 LC: That’s right.

10:29 BH: And you’re already making more money than you were at the job helping and managing responsibility for what? Over 25 people or 25 people?

10:37 LC: I had 25 staff and I was responsible for, you could say well over 100 families.

10:44 BH: Well, so that’s incredible because a lot of people resist making this jump or even doing it part time and growing into it because they think it’s gonna take five, 10 years to ever make a difference or match what they have, so you have one… I know what your word would be. You could do one word or one sentence. That would be, what’s the factor that helped you be able to replace this income and even outpace it in what, 10 months or so?

11:07 LC: I would say a coach.

11:09 BH: Oh. You fooled me on that one. I thought you were gonna say hustle but coach, that’s a good one.

11:13 LC: Coach. You know the thing is, is hustle is great but here’s just a quick little story. In high school, I wrestled and my first two years of wrestling, I did all right. I was decent. My third year, I landed on the most incredible coach that I ever had and he pointed out the things that I’d been practicing improperly. So I’ve been doing the fundamental things of wrestling. Basically some of the most basic moves of wrestling, I’ve been doing completely wrong. If someone’s a wrestler, they would totally understand what I was saying when I say, “I would shoot from my back leg.” And in wrestling, you wanna shoot with your front leg, just to give you an idea. And I’d been shooting from my back leg, which was creating double the work, double the effort and also telegraphing my moves. I got the right coach, and then here’s the thing, is I started to practice perfectly. So practice doesn’t make perfect, it’s perfect practice that makes perfect. We don’t have to Thomas Edison our way to everything. We don’t need to have 10,000 tries to create a light bulb, especially if that light bulb’s already been created.

12:19 BH: No, that’s a great point. So, where I was thinking you were gonna say hustle because I know how hard you work, you can hustle and you can work very hard, but if you’re doing the wrong things it’s not gonna end up working anyway.

12:32 LC: Mm-hmm. You’re doing the wrong things or the things that aren’t actually gonna get you the results. We don’t have to try to reinvent the wheel, why not just hire a coach, join a community of people that have already found success. And luckily my partner is my coach, she’s been in online business for 12 years, so it’s easy for me to brag about 10 months, but I also wanna say that I leverage someone else who’d been doing this for 12 years. I leveraged a podcast to interview people who have been doing this for decades. I leveraged Facebook to network with people who had been doing this for decades, and then I bought programs. So I leveraged other people’s time.

13:10 BH: That’s a good point again. I like bringing out the nuggets you’re giving us, Luis. One, having a coach priceless, but make sure, this is a caveat to make sure, things important for us to say to people that have an idea and they’re trying to get somewhere, is make sure that coach has done what you want to do.

13:32 LC: That’s right.

13:33 BH: ‘Cause you see a lot of coaches out there teaching something that they haven’t necessarily done, and I think you need to make sure somebody’s done the path to teach you correctly what you’re trying to accomplish.

13:43 LC: Yeah. And that’s that problem with online business or any business that I’ve ever tried to kinda take a stab at. Is, there’s a lot of people with a lot of advice, but they’re full of hot air without any experience.

13:58 BH: I love it. So we’re gonna get to know more about you personally, because that’s what important to me. I know your business works, your message resonates but I want people to have opportunity to know Luis a little more, but before we move into that kinda segment, give us maybe give us two or three tips for the person that has gotten an idea, there’s probably some discontent that they’re meant for something bigger, something more, or they have a strong mission but they just don’t know how to turn it into a business or something that they could actually do with their life.

14:31 LC: I’m a strong believer that anytime that you’re not quite fully on fire, and fully ignited and just heated, just scorching hot in your passion and really just setting a blaze everywhere you go with your passion, if you’re not there the fastest way to get there is to put yourself around people who’ve gotten there. We don’t have to pay for it all the time. We don’t have to pay a premium price to do that. One of the ways that we can do that is one, this is gonna be a little shameless plug, but you can pick out my The Podcaster’s Secret Weapon program, and the only reason I’m plugging it is because, what I’ve done, is I said to myself, “I wanna be well known in the online business world, how the heck do I meet people that are already well known, and leverage their success and their name fast?” Well, easily. I started a podcast just like you and I both do Beau, and I interview these people.

15:31 LC: And here’s the thing for me is, education isn’t always a direct thing, a lot of it is unconscious, so when I’m listening to someone talk, and they’re giving me a lesson or some sort of information, what’s really happening is I’m picking out on their mindset, their words, their tonality, that is the education. The information can be heard anywhere but the energy of a human being, of another person, I mean could you imagine sitting with your idol and sitting with them, it’s probably not gonna be the direct education that they’re gonna give you, it’s their energy, so get around that energy as much as possible.

16:12 BH: Right, people on fire. I agree completely. And you bring up another good point, is listen to what people are really saying, not necessarily what they’re saying with their words maybe, because sometimes it’s completely different things. Good. So great tips, so again, so is that the best way? Any other ways people… They’re like, “Hey, I love what Luis is saying. I can tell he’s on fire about what he does, and his networking can help connect.” How do people maybe reach out and have a conversation with you or engage with you best way?

16:44 LC: Definitely. The best way for people to reach out to me, there’s really various ways and I make it a goal of mine to no matter how successful I get, to be accessible to people. So, one, you can definitely go to thepodcasterssecretweapon.com, then you can grab yourself a copy of the $9 booklet that teaches you how to create a podcast, or you can get the full program. You can find me on Facebook, just look up Luis Congdon, or The Podcaster’s Secret Weapon. Send me a message, find me on Linkedin, Twitter, I’m all over the place and my goal is to be accessible to people, number one, regardless of where they’re at in their life.

17:21 BH: Perfect. And people can find on your summary page too, “Ways to connect with Luis.” Perfect. So one thing on the RichLife Show, one of the sound bites, is more than a sound bite to me I really believe it, I call it the place where you are the asset. And today Luis, this show is not about me and this mission but it’s about you, and it’s about the RichLifers that believe in what we’re talking about and they’re committed to not sleepwalk through life, they’re committed to actually live the journey, enjoy every moment, realizing that the richness is the things I have right now while I’m pursuing where I’m going.

18:00 BH: So, let’s get to know you a little better. First thing, a concept of life school. A masterful teacher taught me this a while back, and it’s helped me… I can’t even explain how much it’s helped me to view life this way, that if we compare it to say, going through high school, you have to go through a certain curriculum to graduate, and then you might go to college, and you have certain curriculum and certain maybe, depending on your degree, everybody has a different curriculum. I believe we all have a… We’re born with a certain core curriculum inside us that we’re supposed to fulfill, and some of those tenets are, in life school, there’s no mistakes, only valuable lessons. And it goes on from there, but just taking that first tenet, are there things in your life that you could share, Luis, that might have at the time seemed unfair, the worst thing you could think of, just a hard time that, where the exact curriculum you needed to be who you are today, on fire, doing what you do today?

19:01 LC: I like this word, fire baptism, and for me I don’t know if it’s exactly what that word means, but for me it is kind of like being baptized in your own suffering, or in your own fire, maybe even in your own hell. And in my late 20s I became homeless, and I have an incredible friend that let me sleep at his house. But on several occasions, I wasn’t able to sleep at his house, and so because I was so ashamed and embarrassed of being homeless, and without really much but a few dollars to my name, I didn’t want to tell anyone of my friends or community where I was at, financially. People can hide where they’re at monetarily, almost easier than anything else in their life. Most of us don’t talk about money as it is, and it’s uncomfortable for people to say, “Hey, I’m broke. I literally have a dollar.” And it’s uncomfortable for people to hear, “Hey, I made $10,000 this week.” So we kind of shy away from those conversations, right? So I had to sleep in a park, I had to sleep in my car, and this was during December in the northwest, to give you an idea of how cold it was. I had a sleeping bag when I slept out in the park, I had my car and I was able to put the heat on, fall asleep, wake up several times during the night, put the heat on. Four-door sedan, incredibly uncomfortable to sleep in the backseat. To be this broke, to be educated, and not really feel like I could tell anyone where I was at in my life, felt like my version of hell.

20:45 LC: And recently, I was talking to someone very significant in my life, and we were talking about my business and where I’m at, and the insane amount of hours that I’m putting in. I’m just giving away tons of free time to people, building all sorts of things. I am trying every single route to bring in money. I am literally trying everything and talking to anyone and everyone that I feel has something to offer. And in this conversation, I was asked, “So do you think you’re gonna make a living doing this? What are you gonna do if it doesn’t work?” And I said, “One, it not working is not an option. Two, it is working, and every penny that I make, I save it. And three, because I’ve slept in my car during the winter in the northwest, I know what the worst is, and that is not even possible because that kind of creation within me, because I believe we create our reality, and we are the source of it, or we are co-creators with source, so there’s kind of a sense of there’s us and there’s God, and there’s this kind of divine connection between the two.” So it’s not just me and I’m gonna just blaze my way and just bust through walls, and have an ego about it, it is me being able to ask and being led while at the same time, being able to make my way through with guidance and with asking. I believe that the two are kind of working together.

22:21 LC: And I just said, “You know, because I’ve been burned in the baptism and the fire of my own hell, that reality no longer exists for me, and it is not even an option. Me, God, rest of the world is in complete disagreement, we don’t even think about that anymore because we’ve been there and it’s been burned. Because I use to consistently think about being poor. It was a big fear of mine. “Oh God, how am I gonna pay the bills? Oh man, I hate paying that bill, oh man I just got an overdraft fee, oh gosh what am I gonna do about money, oh I’m so broke, oh I can’t afford it”, these were my thoughts. And those thoughts, I think of thoughts being ripples in water, and that water then transforms into cities, transforms into marriages, divorces, whatever creations, right? But those are ripples that stem from you, the originator and I no longer have thoughts about, “I’m worried about money.” My thoughts go, “This is really exciting. I am a money magnet. How can I help other people produce more success and more money while at the same time, helping me do the same? Oh man, that’s so great. He got money. That’s awesome. Well, that person is broke. Let me give them a few dollars to help them. Oh, that person wants some money. Great, let’s… ”

23:40 LC: I don’t have, I used to look at rich people and go, “Oh my God, those people are causing trouble. That’s not a good thing.” Well, what do you think the universe is going to deliver back to me? God’s gonna go, “Okay, that’s your opinion about money? Well, let me make sure that you get to live in alignment with your belief system around that, ’cause I don’t want harm to come to you and you think this it’s a bad thing.” Now, I think it’s such a good thing. The whole world goes, “Okay, let me just give you more money. You like it and you want to do good things with it, and you think it’s a great thing, then, yeah, let’s give you more of it.”

[chuckle]

24:13 BH: There’s two nuggets I heard there that I wanna make sure we highlight. One, we’re just magnificently created and wired to… It’s almost magical in a way how… What we think about are… What we go about unconsciously, actually, creating in our lives. So you said that both sides, when your thoughts were, you’re worried about money, worried about the paycheck or worried about… [24:43] ____ Guess what we go to work on, and inside ourselves to create that same thing, right? And then the opposite. It’s almost a matter of… What you’ve done Luis, is you’ve effectively just flipped that script, so now you’re making it work for you.

24:57 LC: That’s right.

24:58 BH: That’s beautiful. That’s beautiful. And then the second thing that I thought was very powerful is by being at a bottom or being at a low, I think sometimes, there’s… This is gonna sound bizarre… There’s a little piece there… I’ve heard it in stories several times, in that now you know how to really appreciate a little win. Now you know how to appreciate a big win, and you know… Like you said, the lady in that example, if you’ve always had money and you get a nice raise in your business or a nice lump of income come in, hmm, not a big deal, but you have true… You have the diverse, both sides of that, so you can really see it and appreciate it.

25:40 LC: That’s right.

25:41 BH: So good stuff. So, one of the things, too, growth factor. I find people on a mission, with the intention of serving others, they’re always working on themselves and growing. So, Luis, is there something in your life… It doesn’t necessarily have to be one of your courses or anything. Is there something you’re working on personally just to grow as a person?

26:02 LC: Right now, I’ve been really obsessed with business and working on creating… I’ve created basically from nothing, created something, and something that has really made a significant difference in a lot of people’s lives with a Facebook group of I think 510 members now. For the first time in my life, I’m spending over $10,000 in one month for launching a program.

26:32 BH: Wow.

26:33 LC: Which is incredible for me to go from being broke and having nothing to being able to spend $10,000, still afford my regular life and make an impact in people’s lives and launch a program, launch a product, and really do it big. And the cool thing is, this is gonna be… One lucky person is gonna win 12 weeks hands-on coaching, to create, grow, and monetize a podcast, as well as create and launch a digital product online. This is really life-changing for me and someone else.

27:01 LC: With all that being said, to answer your question, I look forward to, especially in the next coming months as I get a little bit more secure with my business and have more systems dialed in and all of that, to really go back and focus on my relationship. Because the thing about life is when we’re really hyper focused in one area, it’s incredible to watch that success and that growth. And those muscles, they grow and they can stay that way. Once we build… Once we learn how to ride a bike, we don’t need to learn balance again. And so I’ve been learning a lot about financial balance, and it’s an area that I really lacked in. But once I get a little bit more balanced out and have that skill down in a way that I go, “Man, this is really good,” and now I can kind of keep growing it, but I don’t have to do it like I’m on steroids or something, I wanna go back to focusing on my relationships because I will say that as I focus on this area I haven’t spent as much time with family or on my partner or friends in the way that I’m accustomed to.

28:08 BH: And we do. We have to make investments in those areas eventually or they will bankrupt.

28:14 LC: That’s right. That’s right. But I’ve, right now, luckily, I feel like I’ve put so much attention in those areas for such a long time, it would take a lot. I’ve put… I’ve invested a lot of energy so my bank account in my relationships are pretty ample.

28:30 BH: Right. And it’s amazing on your growth factor question here is by you focusing on business and growing and all the things you’re doing. Guess what? That is increasing your ability to help others do the same. Love it.

28:43 LC: That’s right. That’s right.

28:44 BH: Beautiful. A lot of our RichLifers out there, Luis, they said, “Wait a minute. He skimmed over launching this big product. He’s launching his life and available for 12… Somebody’s gonna win 12 months of coaching with you. So somebody that said, “Stop, stop. How do we do that?” How can somebody find out more about that, ’cause I did that?

29:05 LC: Well, Beau, what I would like to do for you and your audience is one, is I’d like you to have your own link for that, Beau, so that people can get the emails, people can go to the website and you can put it anywhere and everywhere you want, Beau, so that people can sign up directly through you. They don’t have to go find my website, dig around, and it’s just Beau will have a link and you can go through that. That’s gonna be launching late October and into early November. And it’s gonna be life-changing. We’ve secured microphones, mic flags, artwork, programs. I’ve really secured a lot from different companies and we’re gonna be giving this stuff away for free as well. I’ve got a, I think it’s about a $1500 mic setup that I’m gonna give away for free.

29:52 BH: Beautiful. So RichLifers, we’ll have on Luis’s page on the richlifeshow.com the link to participate. And we’ll have that up, so you can check that out. And again, what I love about what Luis is doing, is he’s not there telling you something he would like to do one day, or coaching somebody else’s stuff as he’s building. He’s out there doing it. And it’s very similar to what we talk about a lot here on the RichLife Show Luis, is you’re not just doing it and practicing what you preach. I believe, from what I feel from you and hear from you, you’re committed to this long-term journey. You’re not just gonna tell people what to do, you’re gonna be on this journey with them for a long, long time.

30:35 LC: It has to be that way. Once you create a community of over 500 raving fans, it’s not something that… It’s really hard to back out once you’ve dedicated yourself to that many people.

30:46 BH: You said something too I wanna bring back up because I totally get it. So, an entrepreneurial journey, in the mission-based entrepreneurial journey, there comes a point, now don’t misunderstand, if you’re just starting, it’s a point you get to in this journey when you know you’re locked in on the thing you’re meant to do, there comes a point when there’s no turning back. And as scary as that might sound, it’s also the most freeing thing in the world because I know there’s nothing else in this world for me that I can go back and do as well as what I do. So that’s an exciting thing to find that point where there’s no turning back.

31:23 LC: That’s right. I really felt that I found it with my ability to connect with people.

31:28 BH: Now, we gotta get to some… I get so excited when we talk cause there’s so much that resonates with the RichLife message and your mission, Luis. So let’s do some kind of lighting-quick questions and we’ll wrap this up.

31:39 LC: Let’s do it.

31:40 BH: Best money advice you’ve ever received, and from who?

31:44 LC: I’ve heard this multiple… I have two different things, one is tithing. I really believe in that. You get what you receive, or you get what you give, or you receive what you give. And number two, spend less than you make.

32:00 BH: You know, isn’t it amazing how some of the biggest truths or the biggest principles to be successful with money are the simplest things? You’re just like, “Wait, that’s too simple.”

32:09 LC: That’s the truth with anything in life. Simplicity is a sign of mastery.

32:14 BH: I had the opportunity yesterday to speak to 400 high school juniors, and I learned from that. If I can entertain 17-year-olds for an hour, then I can probably talk to just about anybody. That was one lesson. But the second thing, out of 40 minutes, 40-45 minutes of content and talking, that was one of the things I try to drill into them and get them to repeat back to me five times. If they will pay themselves first, or create their own personal tax so that they’re living on less than they make and they learn it before their expenses get too high, they can be successful with all the rest of the content we’re talking about.

32:45 LC: That’s right.

32:45 BH: So simple. Okay, excellent. Best advice for success in life, and who might have given that you? And if you’ve got so many, just pick one that comes to mind.

32:57 LC: My favorite one is “thoughts become things.” And that is a saying that comes from the Buddha.

33:02 BH: There you go. We’re all over that quote today with a lot of the things we’re talking about, and it’s what you think about or what you focus on expands, too. That’s another way.

33:13 LC: As a man thinketh, you know?

33:14 BH: A lot of ways we’ve heard it said. So, last thing, and we’ve had a blast, Luis. I’m telling you, I love having the opportunity to talk to you online, offline, ’cause I always get so much value and I can just feel your heart for what you do and how sincere you are about what you do, so remind RichLifers out there one more time, how can they connect with you?

33:36 LC: Definitely. You can go to thepodcasterssecretweapon.com, and you can opt-in for some free stuff there, and you can email me directly through there. Or you can go to thrivinglaunch.com, check out our podcast as well as email me through there.

33:52 BH: Beautiful. So take us out with your definition… Wait, let me back up. No constraints, no limits, no boundaries, your definition of a rich life.

34:04 LC: I define success and a rich life in the same way, and for me a successful life is one where… A rich life is one where I get to feel love for everyone and everything. If I’ve accomplished that, then I’ve succeeded.

34:24 BH: Well said.

34:25 LC: So the more of that, that I can have, I’ve never found anyone that always feels that they’re always feeling love for everyone and everything, but the more that I can feel that, the more that I’m successful.

34:40 BH: That’s a rich life, my friend. Very good. And I hope you’ll join us again soon and share with us more this evolution as you’re growing and your community’s growing, and sharing with us what you’re learning along the journey.

34:50 LC: I would be honored. Thank you so much for having me here everyone. Thank you so much, Beau. It’s been a real honor.

34:56 BH: RichLifers, check out more about Luis’s story, the resources he talked about today they’ll be on the page, on the richlifeshow.com and I will see you next time right here on the RichLife Show.